from rehearsal with choir (see my on-line photo-album).
Miller writes about when the ability is awoken (arisen) in the client to question and criticize, the therapist need to be able to handle this (my interpretation). And there it’s very important he (she) has worked her (his) things through to that degree so he (she) knows what he (she) is reacting on.
Abusive patients at Janov’s center, how come? Why? Empathy for ones self is said to make one more empathic for other people, what the hypothesis is… What’s wrong here? Is it the method or help which it is something “wrong” or faulty with?
What is true, genuine communication? Doesn’t moderators have to motivate their decisions?
People “exposed” to Janov’s method do they start to use defenses, because their feelings are so overwhelming? And would it be better if they still lived in real life during the therapy as a former patient suggested? Having access to real life, living in real life, and not among other people struggling and triggering things in each other?
I am wondering…
People rejected from ourchildhood.int seem to have committed suicide…
Aren’t those topics important to bring to surface and out in public? If there is nothing to hide I don’t understand what would be the problem??
But people abused perhaps need safe places to discuss this on, not going out in public?? But some are probably capable of going out in public!? And those are probably the less early harmed, or those who have been able to process what they have been exposed to… The more callous handles this "better"?? And the less callous worse? Are there people needing to become rehabilitated?? I think there is... Hearing that other people have been abused? In a similar way as those at Janov's center???
See earlier post about Janov's center... I think one can (and shall) have high demands on moderators, not least on a list calling itself Alice Miller's list... Even if Miller herself doesn't agree to this?
In a similar manner as you should have higher demands on all those in power... As we teachers!! Towards our pupils and students. Of course this doesn't mean we can't get abused by those under us. Because we can and we are??
But this is another question (though not unimportant I guess)... How to handle this professionally. Both as individual and as organization?? So we don't meet abuse with abuse...?
PS. That people have been abused by Alice Miller's team doesn't gain her ideas or herself. And I will claim people have been abused. If anything this must confuse (already confused)!!! Miller wrote herself (in the translation Barbara Rogers made, from French?) about confusing people by motivating a rejection/refusal... How does she mean I wonder?
And that moderators are nothing but ordinary human beings with good and bad sides are no excuse at all!!?? How many abusers doesn't claim this? But we are used to hear such explanations...
No, these things doesn't gain Miller or her ideas!!! She would gain on handling things differently!?
But it's maybe so that she (and members of her team, who that team now consist of) hasn't understood that there exist Internet-trolls at the net?? And how do one separate who are trolls from those who aren't? A key-question maybe or possibly? (and by the way; what do they suffer from?? Who are abusive in that way?).
Addition March 13: I read something in the style
"Silence is friend of the perpetrator."
”Ett gyllene talesätt är att det är ’sak och inte person’ som bör diskuteras i alla diskussionsforum. Så länge argument kan bemötas på ett sakligt och konstruktivt sätt uppstår oftast inga problem.”
"A golden mode of expression is that it is 'thing not person' that ought to be discussed in all discussion-forums. So long as arguments can be met on a unbiased (??) and constructive way no problems usually arises."
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"It's not just water under the bridge."
ACEs are surprisingly common among people of all social strata, and have far-reaching consequences. For many people, it's not possible to "just get over it".
What's an ACE (Adverse Childhood Experience i.e. "skadlig barndomserfarenhet")?Adverse Childhood Experience is growing up experiencing any of the following conditions in the household prior to age 18:
1. Recurrent physical abuse
2. Recurrent emotional abuse
3. Contact sexual abuse
4. An alcohol and/or drug abuser in the household
5. An incarcerated household member
6. Someone who is chronically depressed, mentally ill, institutionalized, or suicidal
7. Mother is treated violently
8. One or no parents
9. Emotional or physical neglect
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This is a blog, with my (sometimes very) personal - and loud reflections on what I read, see, hear, react on, feel for - and not feel for and want to explore. I don't work in this field at all, but I have my reflections and thoughts nevertheless and have read fairly a lot I think, and here I reflect upon all this. I am searching myself forward. I link sites for information, if one want to know more about what I am talking/writing about and what is mentioned in the texts I am citing and referring to. And I link sites not least for my own sake. So it isn’t sure I agree with all that is linked on this blog, that's not why I link sites. I can agree with parts of what is linked, bigger or smaller, from almost everything to almost nothing.
And when it comes to therapy and all (self)help-concepts I think one shall be very careful. Maybe as a friend said it:
“Meaningful critical thinking.
Psychotherapists have been claiming that they have invented better treatment methods since Sigmund Freud in 1897. The amount of psychological distress in the world hasn’t become less. There’s money to be made from attracting more clients, whether the therapy works or not.
Meaningful critical thinking:
Also see Miller’s FAQ-list “How to Find the Right Therapist.”
Questions that can give one ideas about what to ask.
A dissertation on"Critical Thinking in Scholarship - Meanings, Conditions and Development" by Eva Brodin.
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