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8/06/2009

Status and happiness…

"A meaningful job is happiness. Forget status and money if you want to become happy at work. Stake at working with something that feels meaningful."
Bengt Brülde, associate professor at the University of Gothenburg, researching on what kind of strategies that make us feel well and become happier says according to the Swedish magazine "FeelWell."

But you have to earn a certain amount of money too is my addition. So you don’t have to count every penny you spend. And getting a meaningful job isn't all granted!? Too.

But his findings can be used quite moralistic… And by moralists. And by people in the power. And this is contempt for weakness.

And it’s not just to decide to be happy! Or just to change your mindset, I think… (also see this blogposting).

Status (or power) wouldn't be important if we had been treated with the deepest respect from the first beginning of our lives? And we would also have access to a whole spectrum of feelings, from happiness to its opposite...

10/12/2008

Substitutes, hypocrisy, inequality…

the Swedish sculptor Carl Milles and Ellen Key.

“The renowned architect Frank Lloyd Wright has received much historical attention, but author Nancy Horan turns her gaze on Mamah Borthwick, Wright’s lover -- their long-term affair scandalized the public -- who deserves attention in her own right for her work as a feminist. Loving Frank tells the story of Cheney’s affair with Wright and her struggles to mesh her own independence and intelligence with the traditional roles of wife and mother. (the text is taken from here).”


Taliesin the home Wright built for him and Mamah.

[Updated in the evening with a PPS]. I don't really know what to give this posting as heading (actually many times I don't really know what to use as titles)...


I have been reading the book ”Loving Frank” by Nancy Horan (in Swedish) for a while, now reaching the end of it, about the American architect Frank Lloyd Wright and his love affair with Mamah Borthwick Cheney which occurred in the beginning of the former decade (I am reading many books in parallel, phew!).


They were both married when they got in love. This love caused a scandal and a lot of emotions in the society around them and was written about in the newspapers even.


Here is a review in New York Times "Notes on a Scandal" (also see here). There it stands for instance:

“Public outrage followed Frank and Mamah across the Atlantic in 1909, endangering the young architect’s career and destroying his companion’s good name. Wright’s legacy has been retroactively protected and buttressed by his work, but Mamah Borthwick Cheney’s reputation didn’t survive their romance — and neither did she. Horan follows the couple as their relationship travels from its anxious, ecstatic beginnings, past doubts and compromises, through renewed hope, and on to its tragic close./…/


Mamah Borthwick Cheney wasn’t just any woman, but Horan makes her into an enigmatic [mysterious, puzzling or "gåtfull" in Swedish] Everywoman — a symbol of both the freedoms women yearn to have and of the consequences that may await when they try to take them.

In the end Horan writes about Wright that (in my amateur translation from the Swedish text):

“This was Frank in a nutshell, conductor out into the fingertips.”

Frank had thought about every single detail about the impression his "creations" would give (even when it came to Mamah's dresses, at least atone occasion)… He had his sides. As Mamah had.


This made me think.

“And this is more okay when it comes to and is about a man still!? Or one has to oversee with it at least!? They lived in a system that allowed some people (men for instance) to play their childhoods out, both in the family (the smallest system) and in the society. Even on the highest level. And in this way these persons (preferably men) didn’t have to do anything about their problems, issues.”

We grant them irresponsibility. They don't have to grow up!? They can still go on being like grown up boys!? My mom used to say that she had one big child and six small children. The child reacted with astonishment, because he didn't give him any opportunity to grow up either. Or was this HER responsibility? I don't know, maybe she also had interests in keeping him like a small child, not to loose him (with a tired smile)??? Because she in turn didn't really believe in her value and real, true rights?


Men don’t have to take responsibility too many times still, didn’t have to do anything an are still more accepted just as they are - in a/many way/s. They could continue to play things out. Women fell back on a false hope to change their men (making them stay in the relation. Hoping an trying and struggling year after year after year, as did Mamah, when she bu time discovered Frank's different sides, for instance a "spoiled child side", his mother's favorite, before Frank's two sisters. Whom accepted their roles)?


Women haven’t had those opportunities. Where have they played their things out? Yes, on their children (if they had any)!? And if they didn’t have any? How do we stop this vicious circle? That only one part/side take responsibility?


And this is still true to a high degree: men are ruling the world (false power - anger? Anger expressed in many different ways give them a sense of power? A need for power that actually have with their childhoods to do?). And can still play all their unprocessed things out, and thus take no responsibility for them. Aren’t really forced to do anything about them. They aren’t compelled doing anything because of how the society still functions!


Here in Sweden more women seek help with therapists, psychologists… And also get abused sometimes by their so called helpers… On top.


And as the society now and still functions the ones loosing most are still women and children and poor people. Who still have least power and status.


But men also looses on this in the end. All men do? But in slightly different ways? They may have more status only by the fact hat they are men (and usually physically stronger) and/or actual power, money etc., but problems with near relations, with closeness.


Filling their needs with substitutes, like power, money, drugs of different kinds (as do women), independency (I don’t need, giving them a sense of power, actually not a true power!? Also going back to their childhoods?).


So women have the strongest immediate interests in changing the state of affairs – still, 100 years later!??? They loose most on the current situation still!?


But men ought to be interested too, for their and the ones sake they maybe love?? And for the world's sake and how things develop in it?

Yes, mothers (AND fathers) can treat their sons badly in many ways... Hating them, not seeing their (justified) needs, using them for filling their own needs (for abreactions for instance)... And give their sons problems later in life. Sometimes tremendous problems. As much as daughters are given problems from their parents... But in slightly different ways?

PS. My postings have looked strange for a while. I get a message about a faulty HTML-code or something. I know nothing about HTML and haven't done anything... But never mind...

Anyway, it's a wonderful day...

Nancy Horan's website see here.

PPS. After fixing up here I took some fika out on the balcony and read the last pages in the book mentioned in this posting, and couldn’t help getting tears in my eyes, actually running down my cheeks, when I read it.


Got three new books on Friday. One of those was Susan Faludi’s The Terror Dream. Fear and Fantasy in post 9/11 America. In a meeting summer 2005 with her friend, the Swedish journalist and author, Maria-Pia Boëthius the seeds were sowed that resulted in this book she writes.


I won’t have time reading this book the coming weeks or months I think, so I read words here and there.


The last paragraph made me spontaneously think:

“The whole nation regressed! As its leader(s).”

And that’s what has happened through history here and there, even if we perhaps haven’t thought in those terms.


When we are placed or put before repetition(s) of an experience that formed us we have a possibility solving the old story in a new way. Go back to the future (in the best cases) and turn the long-term denial upside-down.


Faludi talks about a national identity not built on some sort of virile illusion, but on the talents we all, women and men, have to the same degree.


According to wikipedia:

“In her 1999 book ‘Stiffed: The Betrayal of the American Man’ Faludi analyzes the state of the American man. Faludi argues that while many of those in power are men, most individual men have little power. American men have been brought up to be strong, support their families and work hard.


But many men who followed this now find themselves underpaid or unemployed, disillusioned and abandoned by their wives. Changes in American society have affected both men and women, Faludi concludes, and it is wrong to blame individual men for class differences, or for plain differences in individual luck and ability, that they did not cause and from which men and women suffer alike.

3/30/2008

The problems with defences…

pictures from today's walk.
Spontaneously: A lot of thoughts (and emotions) on the walk I have just returned from. Eskil is still peeing blood… It is not fun mildly said. And maybe this is also triggering things… Experiences?

Addition in the evening: Chose the title to this posting very quickly... Maybe I should have chosen another? But there is so much in my head and mind now...

I also came to think of people denying their needs, thoughts triggered by a posting I did on my other blog this morning. Also a posting I have thought of writing a long time. Having everything in check and control, and maybe also looking down on other people, “weak”, dependent ones… There is a psychiatrist here David Eberhard whom has written a book “In the safety addictions-land”. He means that it can be too much safety and security! Till it becomes an addiction!

These denying their needs are often (but not all??) resonating in terms of:

“I can manage! (why can’t you then too?) What weakling are you!”

And this is plainly said contempt for weakness?? Contempt for the small child one was once?? See Bosch on the Primary Defence. And on the False Power Denial of Needs, False Power Anger – and False Power Hope…

Women often resort to False Power Hope Defence and adds it with False Power Denial of Needs Defence she means… They (we) think they (we) can change the state affairs and this can be added (and is often added) with denial of needs, we think the more we can deny our needs the better, the we will get love. The less needy they (we) are the more respected they (we) become – they (we) think at least!?? In general. But she underlines that this is a generalization and that there are (a lot of) exceptions.

And men generally combine Denial of Needs with False Power Anger, which gives them a (false) sense of strength, a strength they don’t need in the present situation (most often), but needed to defend themselves with as small boys to survive (and not experience how vulnerable and power and helpless they were then, denying this fact with a belief of, false, power, a power the small boy actually didn't have, but as he grown up man now most often have).

But denial of needs doesn’t mean one doesn’t have any needs and what's more important that the person doesn’t act on his/her needs? Trying to fill them in different ways, but maybe this is more or less hidden or visible/invisible both to themselves but also to others?

Unfulfilled needs which have become, what Stettbacher calls them, perverted?

And filling these perverted needs are always (more or less) harmful? And the ones that are denying them the most are causing most harm?? The less aware are causing most harm? The ones most in Denial causes most harm? Or the ones most in denial and with most power cause most denial? And maybe these persons also need power the most to defend themselves? And need exercising power most, need having power the most to hold the truth away?

Yes, psychohistorians are right about backward psychoclasses here?

And the ones admitting to their needs or who got their needs filled the most as children, or wo have been able or got help processing their early history the most and best, are causing less harm and don’t have to fill their needs through other people?

The worse is though when one tries to fill ones early unmet and denied needs through children (ones own or other people’s) and the ones under in power or less strong. Compared to filling them through other grown up people equal to oneself...

See earlier postings on authoritarianism.one of my favourites, picture taken 4 hours ago.

3/24/2008

Narratives - and information...

But how do we come to terms with all these things? It’s all hopeless and depressing?

One way is trying to inform?

I also saw (once again) the chapter “Narratives” in Kirkengen’s book “Inscribed bodies…” At page 55 she writes:

“Dialogues about the impact of life world experiences on individuals include personal memories and reflections. To these, statements or judgments are related, shaped as narrative accounts. In the human sciences, there exists a multidisciplinary agreement that a central part of human communication is embedded in the telling of stories. This is mirrored in the universality of story-telling, and in the grammar structures constituting a linguistic matrix for stories found in all human languages. The story itself resembles a natural psychological unit in emotional life. Such stories present as internally consistent interpretations or reconstructions of presently understood past, experienced present and anticipated future.”

Came to think about findings around alexithymia. A Swedish stress researcher Peter Währborg wrote in one of his books about alexithymia, i.e. lack of emotional language, and the problems with this; if you have problems expressing your feelings you are at risk of developing heart-diseases. He has found similar things in immigrants he writes, who of natural reasons “don’t have the language”. Or can there be other reasons (too) to the development of heart-diseases in those persons? And my dad had no heart-problems at all! Despite I wouldn’t say he had a well developed emotional language, or expressed what he felt or had it, and definitely not in emotional terms/words (instead in outbursts). So he was an exception from those with a well developed emotional language (but he had the language in other senses?? and expressed himself in other ways?), which confirms the rule??

Earlier postings under the label alexithymia.

When I searched on alexithymia I found this article ”How do one know what is right and what is wrong?”, where it for instance stood (my translation from Swedish a little freely) that the…

“… ‘intuitionists’ [those going on their intuition] don’t excommunicate the reason (or common sense). The modern society exposes us to a long row of new moral dilemmas and crisis our ancestors never met or were exposed to./…/

In our ‘modern’ choice-situations there are no intuitive flashes which swift as a lightening guides us. Then we must access our frontal lobe and weigh for and against. Such a combined emotion and thought process is laborious and takes a long time [longer than the intuitive flashes which guided our earliest ancestors?], or at least it ought to take time if the mankind, love and the planet shall survive on longer term.”

(Silent reflection: k, the spontaneous and "quick" and fast reacting!? Going on emotions, but also on intellect?? Of some accused for being too intellectual or only intellectual? Other people are disturbed by the spontaneity? Or how does the environment actually sees this? "What people think." I am both spontaneous and shy - and thinking?? All in one??? One can't satisfy all? Is it necessary and who are important actually in this world, for me? And for whom am I worth something; valuable, appreciated...?)

The author of the article writes that we have to try to stand living in a time which despite all its inspiring modernity and all its good democracy is morally totally confused (???). She speculates that there are no moral patent-solutions on what is right and what is wrong (but still there are, when it comes how to treating other people!?). And continues:

“Then it feels good when Zimmer [she had read the book “Soul made flesh” by Carl Zimmer] reminds me about that humankind’s moral has been shaped during millions of years and that this moral above all is about caring about other people.”

Hmmm, words, words, words... (a Wall of Words? Putting it up against other people: don't come near! Don't come here!? A protection against disappointment?)

Words aren't enough either? Sometimes you just need a hug with no words at all, a wordless expression of care, maybe only meeting another person's eyes, encouraging, caring??

To be continued I think (I would like to quote Kirkengen further)...

PS. Stuck at the computer on my way to the shower and washing the dishes:

Strong – not weak, having no needs or feelings. Being “strong” was important – and justified abuse? Because if you didn’t feel, then what harm did violence or abuse cause, and you could also be accused of being both too sensitive, oversensitive and totally insensitive and not caring!? A catch 22-situation?

Controlling your feelings was admired (and is socially admired)? At least in some who had the responsibility of thinking of others and controlling their feelings (and needs?), while others uncontrolled outbursts were allowed? Confusing!? Contradicting!?? Why this difference? It was no difference? You saw wrong (Thou Shalt Not Be Aware)?

And never the two meet?? But this is what they wanted?

Review of "Inscribed bodies..." by Vincent J. Felitti.

3/18/2008

Contempt for weakness…

In the revised version of Miller’s ”The Drama of the Gifted Child” she writes in the chapter "The Vicious Circle of Contempt" (at pages 129-130 in the Swedish edition) about something one can observe in almost all psychiatrists, clinical psychologists and therapists, namely that they certainly don’t use words like bad, dirty, filthy, mean, egoistic or ruined, but between themselves they are talking about ‘narcissistic’, ‘exhibitionistic’, ‘destructive’, ‘regressive’ or borderline patients and don’t notice that they are giving those words a depreciating meaning.

You can imagine that they in their abstract vocabulary, in their objectifying attitude, yes, even in their theory-building (making) and their passionate diagnosing have something in common with the mothers' contemptuous looks/glazes, originating from the well adapted girl (boy) in them.

Maybe a nap here now?? Came back from a tour to town on bike looking like a snowman!? It snowed so much, but I needed to get out. I skipped a concert in the concert-hall here at 13:00 (1:00 PM), with one of our folk-music-groups (playing folk-music from all parts of Europe, not only Swedish) and a choir, "Salt voices"!! The weather was too bad to go out once again and go back to town again after lunch... :-)

PS. Miller also writes (page 145 in the Swedish edition of ”The Drama…”) that a human being who has worked her/his own destiny’s tragedy through consciously (been able doing this, probably with help) can at last (much more) plainly apprehend her human fellow beings suffering, even if that person still has to belittle it.

She can’t make fun of (or scorn) other people’s feelings, of whatever sort they are, if she can take her own feelings seriously. She will not let the vicious circle of contempt continue.

She will show genuine, real empathy and compassion (my addition)??

Also see this Readers' letter at Miller's web "Why they wanted to kill us", where Miller answers:
"Your letter shocked me very much. Although I have written it myself, I am shocked every time when someone can understand with his/her own feelings where I am coming from. Maybe this is why the most talented children attract their parents' hatred because their aliveness, curiosity and intelligence show them what has been strangled in their parents. But sadly, all this happens in the unconscious. Hatred is covered up by assurances of love and 'legitimized' by lies."

PPS. Miller about a Hans (page 142 in the Swedish edition of "The Drama...") who had had to struggle seeing everything from above. He had had to fight against a pressure to achieve and had been living his whole life under an enormous stress and pressure, isolated from all and everyone (my fantastic translation, maybe a little freely):

"Not until now Hans understood how he in his contempt had had to isolate himself from the other and how he at the same time had been separated from his true self; the helpless, unsure part.

As soon as the sorrow over the irreversible appears [that you can't change the past, and realizing the truth about it, that you weren't truly or unconditionally loved then] the contempt disappears regularly. Even this contributed in its way to the denial of the past’s reality.

It is of course less painful to think that it is ones own fault that one didn’t get understood. Then you can make efforts explaining something to the other to save the illusion of unity (‘if I only express myself properly’) [struggling and struggling till you get blue, or exhausted, burnt-out?].

But if one gives all this up and stop making every possible effort one has to experience that understanding in itself wasn’t possible, because the suppression of the own childhood-destiny made the parents blind to their children’s needs [and one stop symbolizing, i.e., being drawn to people with whom this is reenacted?]."


Smiled when I watched this video... Yes, I like trees too. A friend thought I was very fond of photographing trees... :-) I hadn't thought of that... I don't know if it is really true though?? But trees and the nature means a lot to me. I have tried gardening a little... And farming a little too, as we had a small farm when I was in my teens (we didn't live there though), and we have had animals...

Innate vulnerability...

Got tips about articles from a Norwegian friend that one of three of us living here in the north have genetic predispositions for vulnerability!!! I haven't had time yet to read those articles.

Now I got a reply from her that she is so tired (and even hate) hearing about this!!! I can well understand. And I get tired too!!!! She wondered why are noone ever (???) talking about "perpetrator-genes"?? Where is the research about those genes, the "perpetrator-genes"?? But about genes for vulnerability (have they found those genes by the way??) we can speak and write. Once and again.

And what would the normal reaction be on continuing abuse and violations maybe (or most probably, even in very subtle form maybe) since childhood?? Do the experts understand how it is to live with constant fear for violations? Constant fear between each trauma? Do they have any idea how this feels from inside?? How it is for a child with no help after each occasion of abuse? After humiliations?

Yes, what is a "normal" reaction to abuse? Is it normal not to react??

And with these ideas about an inherited vulnerability the perpetrators get "evidence" that it is something wrong with the victim!!! (parents towards their children, other abusers later in life towards their victims). Not with what the perpetrator does really, or with the perpetrator, not what's wrong with him/her?? Why not one can wonder!??

Contempt for weakness isn't it!!?? And empathy deficits!??

Yes, it was this about biomedical scientists scoring high in tests on empathy deficits...

Came to think of the therapist saying to his client since many years something about (over)sensitivity... How was it Miller wrote about the passion to diagnose among psychiatrists, clinical (??) psychologists etc.??

2/26/2008

Two women...

from a walk February 4, 2007.
Struck me when I had gone to bed yesterday, had to turn the light on again and write:

Even grown ups can need support and encouragement (together with compassion and empathy. The least they need is being met with contempt or of being scorned!!?? Outspoken or not??) to leave an abusive relation, to speak up, to articulate what they have been exposed to, for being able to protect themselves properly, constructively and adequately, and maybe for protecting other weaker (if they have children).

How many don't protect the abuser/perpetrator (of shame that they "allowed" the bad treatment, that they made such a mistake, took so wrong, accusing themselves for what they are and have been exposed to, that they were such fools, admitting to how wrong they took and maybe being blamed and even laughed at "We told you!!" as so many times earlier maybe, and maybe also believing they deserved it. And the sad thing is that they are probably feeling more shame the worse they are or have been treated)??

The abused has to be explicitly asked (especially if she/he has problems of leaving), by a person that makes her/him feel confident enough?? Kirkengen also writes...

And how many doesn't have to be asked about their thoughts, you have to draw them out of them (why is this)? And then, when they later start to express them, how can they then be met? (“damn if you don’t, and damn if you do”, which is a master suppression technique). Quite ironically.

But a person's inability of leaving doesn’t excuse the abuse with that the abuser wasn't hindered from committing it (whether he/she is abusing verbally, emotionally, physically or sexually)!!!! But how often isn't this done? (as was written about in Swedish in this posting and in English in this posting about "Evilness and responsibility..."). The abuser is still responsible for his/her abuse. And also responsible whatever his/her history is or how conscious or little conscious this history is???

The Norwegian physician Anna Luise Kirkengen writes about this. As General Practitioner she met two women who got breast-cancer. When Kirkengen at last got their confidence they told her about abuse by their husbands. Both these women died in their cancer, but Kirkengen thought that if she had been aware of such connections, and seen and understood the signs those women showed, they would still have been alive.

People are often very loyal and don’t want to reveal things… And shame holds them from it too (see Jenson on shame). And from the child's point of view; the abusing parent isn't granted discharge because the other parent (non protecting) was incapable of protecting it!!? The abusing parent is still responsible for his/her abuse and deeds!

And that people have read Alice Miller doesn't have to mean a thing!!

Kirkengen writes in her book “How Abused Children Becomes Unhealthy Adults”;

"I have been a General Practitioner in western Oslo for 30 years. Most of my patients have been women, of all ages and stages of life. I remember well my shame when I realized how little I actually knew about my patients' lives. I had been examining and trying to treat two of my female patients for extensive loss of function for quite some time, though without success. I then discovered, and at about the same time, that they were both being beaten regularly by their husbands. Both men customarily ‘legitimatized’ their violent acts. One blamed his drunkenness, the responsibility for which he assigned to my patient as she had provoked him by nagging, and for that provocation she would have to accept her punishment. The other man cited the Bible giving him the right to chastise a sinful and disobedient wife, which he claimed she was. For him, it was always useful to drink a little hard liquor before the punishment began, but that too was her fault: he, a believing Pentecostal Christian and a highly regarded leader of the congregation, had to drink from time to time because she was promiscuous and ‘cozied up’ to other men at the Church meetings. Both women later developed breast cancer, and both told me after their operations that their men had stopped beating them. One of them experienced severe complications during follow-up treatment. The other struggled with unyielding pain in the area where she had been operated on. Both died of their cancers within two years of their operations. Both left behind teenage children.

It is possible that these women might still have been alive had I understood sooner just what of a strain they were under. However indirectly, their bodies had in fact sent me signals of their powerlessness. Both had an abundance of those symptoms which medicine tends to define as ‘diffuse and indeterminate. [and these women were so forbidden to speak up, and took this pattern with them in their marriages?] What appeared that way medically would have been quite palpable socially. But they each had a public standing to uphold and a family’s reputation to protect. They were ashamed of being married to such men and tried as hard as they could to act as if all were well – even as their ebbing energies betrayed them. This took the form of an illness with no medical findings, and pain without organic malfunction. They were constantly on the alert to prevent an outburst and, failing that, to keep the children from noticing and the neighbors from hearing. Still, they knew well that the neighbors knew. But ‘everyone’ entered into a tacit social agreement to maintain silence about the paternal violence going on behind closed doors within the protected zone called private life. I contend that this protection cost these women their lives.

I had to admit that I had been a blind and deaf physician to these two women. During the same period, I gradually understood that even nonviolent violation can kill, albeit indirectly. One of my young, healthy and happily pregnant, well-educated and self-aware patients was expecting a second child with her equally well-educated and healthy husband of her dreams. From the 24th week on, she became increasingly ill and the outpatient maternity clinic and I were at our wits’ end. The baby needed to be rescued in the 32nd week by means of Caesarean section. Once the woman came out of the anesthesia, she fell into a deep depression and the staff at the women’s clinic mobilized all their resources. An experienced family therapist was called in to meet with the couple and, it emerged slowly that the woman’s husband had had sexual relations with six different partners during her pregnancy. She had known nothing of this but had felt a deep sense of anxiety that she could not attach to anything concrete. His escapades, which he covered up with politeness and seemingly generous care, had nearly cost their child his life.

In the meantime, several others of my female patients, whose extensive medical problems necessitated their going on disability, revealed to me another destructive font of suffering – sexual abuse during childhood [but that they were abused in childhood doesn't excuse abuse later in grown up life!!]. This led me to conduct a half-year pilot study in my practice in which I followed-up gynecological examinations with a questionnaire about sexual violation experiences. Eighty-five of the 115 women who met the study’s criteria allowed me to interview them. Twenty-four of these had been sexually violated at least once in their lives. I had known all of these women prior to this study, most of them for years, yet I knew about the violation experience of only one of them. My further research into how childhood sexual violation can lead to adult health problems sprang from there.

I have spoken with many adults who lived out their childhood in what I would call ‘unboundaried’ families. By that I mean families in which the adults did not respect closed doors, personal letters, diaries or closed drawers, in which the children’s body parts were not off-limits to other people’s hands, in which all confidences were made public, homes where children were shamed and ridiculed in front of others, where corporal punishment was meted out, arbitrarily [godtyckligt], and where the adults lied and refused to take responsibility. In short, these were homes in which the child was not shown respect, and where the child’s personal integrity was scorned. [Does this excuse later abuse? Or contempt for weakness? Because these later adults are incapable of properly protecting themselves in abusive relations/marriages? Kirkengen writes that the environment didn’t help those women either, to (constructively) deal with what they experienced or to leave. A help they obviously would have needed? Because they were so harmed earlier, probably in many ways? Emotionally, physically and probably much more often than we believe sexually. But of course from the children’s point of view this is no excuse; that a parent isn't/wasn’t capable of protecting better or maybe at all etc. But because they weren’t able of protecting themselves and maybe on top very insecure, this gives noone the right to abuse them more and further – or to scorn them for their lack of security or inabilities. The one doing this isn’t much better than the husbands above!!?? Excusing their abuse with that it was the women’s (own) fault that they were abused, both physically and emotionally - and maybe also sexually. And they have no responsibility for that their children had to witness things either? Or for their abuse of their children because their mothers were incapable of protecting them from abusing their children??].”

And Kirkengen also writes about so called “helpers” abusing once again (in the name of help and for the other person’s best). I think of the father publicly offending? His public "constructive criticism"?? Because "they needed it, it was for their own best," and he was in his rights?? And the abuse goes on and on??

But from the child's point of view: how many children haven't had to understand their mothers' helplessness?? But both parents in such a family are responsible, but in different manners. For abuse, abandonment etc. Freyd has written about these things... In her book "Betrayal Trauma...", about betrayal of trust??

I reacted so strongly on a brother expressing his contempt for his sisters, incapable of leaving abusive relationships... And not only that?? But a general contempt for weakness (including for the weak sex and insecurity etc.), despite supposedly being enlightened? And didn't he show a general disrespect for human beings? And their struggles? Despite a so called enlightenment!?

Wasn't I clear enough? Am I too well-mannered to speak out more clearly? (yes, of course it is my fault?? For not being clear enough? Not expressing myself more clearly?? It has nothing with the other part to do? Not understanding, sensing, hearing?).

And I have wondered and thought earlier about a wall of words too... And that is of course also forbidden?? (but how harmful for others??)

Earlier postings with the label shame. Jenson on shame (in Swedish).

My fantastic English... Excuse for it, and excuse again...
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Jean Jenson skriver om skam sidan 150-151 i sin bok ”Att återerövra sitt liv”:

”… är skam en känsla som orsakas av att vi behandlas som om vi är dåliga, elaka eller onda när vi är barn. Jag tror att skambegreppet är en följd av att föräldrar fått lära sig att tro att människor har en medfödd tendens att vara onda (vilket inte innebär att det inte finns onda vuxna). Om förmågan att känna en normal känsla av att man begått något fel eller gjort något ont har blivit skadad kommer det destruktiva beteendet att hålla i sig. Det är vanligt att barn som har blivit svårt kränkta eller överdrivet bortskämda växer upp till vuxna med skadad förmåga att känna empati eller ha medlidande med någon annan än sig själva. Eftersom dessa människor inte kan känna skuld har de inget som driver dem att bättra sig, och de kommer troligen att fortsätta begå onda handlingar. Människor är dock inte onda av naturen.

När föräldrar reagerar på sina barns mänskliga tillkortakommanden som om de inte bara är uttryck för misstag eller ofullkomlighet utan handlingar som beror på deras inneboende ’ondska’ (en föreställning som får stöd av den religion som de flesta i vårt samhälle bekänner sig till), behandlar de sina barn på sätt som ger upphov till en känsla av ’skam’ (ondska). På grund av att dessa övertygelser är så allmänt spridda och att våra egna föräldrars reaktioner på oss som barn grundade sig på samma övertygelser, accepterar vi med barnslig tillit utan vidare att vi har en ondskefull natur som måste kontrolleras och att vi, när vi inte lyckas göra det, borde ’skämmas’. Min egen upplevelse av denna känsla var att jag var helt igenom ond, bortom all möjlighet till försoning – att jag var någon som ingen kunde älska. Det är min övertygelse att känslan av skam skapas av att man blir illa behandlad under barndomen, medan skuld är en normal känsla som kan upplevas under alla faser av livet.”

Bosch skriver också om skam under konceptet ursprungligt försvar sidorna 66-67 i sin bok (min översättning och se detta blogginlägg):

”…babyer och unga/små barn är hjälplösa och beroende av andra (vårdnadsgivaren) för att fylla alla sina behov (mat, tak över huvudet, kärlek, vårdande, trygghet osv.). När dessa behov inte blir fyllda utifrån av andra, skyddar barnet sig mot den livshotande sanningen genom att tänka att hon borde ha kunnat möta dessa behov inifrån sig själv. Men naturligtvis är barnet fortfarande för litet för att kunna göra detta. Resultatet blir negativa tankar om oss själva. ’

Det är något fel med mig, därför att jag inte kan ta hand om mina egna behov’.

Det ursprungliga försvaret kan bestå av tankar sådana som

’Jag kommer aldrig att klara detta’, ’Jag är dålig’, ’Jag är inget bra’, ’Jag är skyldig’, ’Jag är alltid den som krånglar till saker’, ’Ingen bryr sig om mig’, ’Jag är värdelös’, ’Jag kommer alltid att vara ensam’, ’Jag är en skam’ osv.

Det ursprungliga försvaret karaktäriseras av uppfattningar, tankar och idéer som närmar sig en allvarligt negativ självutvärdering/självvärdering. För vissa av oss fokuserar dessa uppfattningar mer på idén om att vara skyldig och inte god nog, slutligen ledande till förkastande (vanligtvis falskthopporienterade människor). För andra ligger betoningen på att man är en inneboende dålig människa, vilken förr eller senare kommer att bli avslöjad av andra och då bli förkastad (vanligtvis falskmaktorienterade människor). För vissa ligger det ursprungliga försvaret mer på ytan (falskmaktidentifierade), för andra är det skjutet mycket långt bort ifrån personen (falskmaktidentifierad) /../

Det ursprungliga försvaret är ett effektivt försvar därför att när någon tänker att något är fel med oss, så behöver vi inte känna skräcken och smärtan över den gamla livshotande verkligheten [att mamma och pappa faktiskt inte visste vad vi behövde och det de visade faktiskt inte var särskilt kärleksfullt, hur mycket de än påstod det och själva var övertygade om att de älskade sina barn]: att våra överlevnadsbehov inte blev mötta. Att känna att någonting är fel med oss, skyddar oss från att inse att det absolut inte fanns någonting fel med det barn som vi var. Men att det däremot var något fel med den omgivning som vi befann oss i: omgivningen (vanligtvis våra föräldrar) var inte förmögen att förse barnet med vad det behövde.

Medan vi får ett effektivt sätt att undvika att klart se människorna omkring oss för vad de verkligen är, så ger det ursprungliga försvaret också barnet en känsla av kontroll. Om barnet tror att hennes behov inte fylls, därför att något är inneboende fel med henne, så betyder det att hon skulle kunna ändra det predikament hon är i. Hon förtjänar det predikament hon befinner sig i, så därför kan det kanske finnas någonting som hon kan göra för att ändra denna. Här blir kopplingen mellan ursprungligt försvar och falskt hopp väldigt tunn: det ursprungliga försvaret kan lätt röra sig över till falskt hopp. Naturligtvis kommer detta att fallera, men barnet vi var kunde i alla fall leva med denna livräddande illusion. Detta blev möjliggjort genom det ursprungliga försvaret.”

Barnet klandrade sig självt för att det blev dåligt behandlat, kränkt osv. Och detta beteende tar den vuxne med sig och reagerar med självklander och skam när han/hon blir dåligt behandlad som vuxen, blir vittne till kränkningar eller befinner sig i en kränkande miljö. Alternativt förnekar att hon/han blir det eller bevittnar kränkning eller befinner sig i en kränkande miljö. Och att vi känner skam även som vuxna tror Jenson har med tidiga upplevelser att göra, som vi inte fått möjlighet att bearbeta tillräckligt och kanske också är helt omedvetna om.

Tillägg efter cykeltur: barnet och den senare vuxne tror inte hon/han förtjänar bättre och tiger av skam... Blir skamsnare ju sämre hon blir behandlad? Och skamsnare över kränkningar och övergrepp ju sämre hon/han blev behandlad tidigt? Alternativt har ingen kontakt alls med skam eller skuld? Men agerar ut den på andra, företrädesvis på dem som står under honom/henne i något avseende? Intar själv kränkarrollen? Och låter andra känna hur förödmjukad han/hon en gång kände sig om han/hon får chansen (känslor som troligen är bortträngda och förnekade dock?).