Yes, what do we actually need?

Why do people stay in (more or less) abusive environments? Why do some struggle even more the less real, genuine communication occurs??? Where what they try to communicate doesn't really find any real response? And maybe where the lack of real, genuine response is mutual? Maybe it's like that too?

Where people don't talk the same language?? Of some reason. Even if they happen to talk the same language!

Why are some unable of just quitting, but stay and try even harder? And try with all means?

Is it a question of deciding plainly to stay or to leave? If it isn't like this, what is the reason for this?

I have had discussions with women in different circumstances the last time about the conditions for women... In fact many very angry women... (of which all aren't mothers themselves and don't have to protect their own mother-roles). About different demands on different genders... About different permissions too, for this and that?

What isn't allowed for women, but allowed for men? Things we see through our fingers with?

Even among so called enlightened!! Where not only "enlightened" men in fact are discriminating, but where also "enlightened" women don't see things really!!?

We have spoken about abusive contexts here and there... Some probably extremely subtle?? Or we are made so blind? How do we start seeing those? Is this only about some kind of intellectual equilibrism?? If it was wouldn't many problems have been solved? And solved if nowhere else among those most intelligent?

What is there in the background? An abusive father (or father-figure), a submissive mother??

People (we) are talking about abuse but are abusive them(our)selves (maybe very subtly though)??? And how do we handle this? How do we point this out to the "abuser"?? Do we have to? Can we just silence this person? Or something else?

Does a special context contribute in triggering worse sides in people? And others better, more constructive? Things that really leads further and to real, genuine development?

Do all actually want to do something about themselves? And how is this expressed? How do we see this? Can we see it?

And I also came to think: can a blind lead a blind?

And, once, again: why do some get stuck in abusive context/circumstances (even if the abuse is very subtle or maybe even hidden)??

What is open, genuine talk about actually?? Where all involved in fact want to develop? Are taking responsibility for themselves??

I have no final answers... Am just wondering...

Why are some unable to leave? Why are some prone to get stuck??

Yes, is there a very subtle, maybe even unconscious contempt for weakness for the ones that can't take themselves in the collar and just stop with their behavior?? But on the contrary; how is it with that?? Aren't some allowed to keep on on their paths??

Are some men actually behaving almost exactly as their fathers did (and still do)?? With the same or similar contempt?? And with the same discrimination?? Or is this only about my own father-experience??? My colored glasses only??

They don't have to answer or reply to anything if they don't want? And they know (???) they don't risk anything, because the woman won't leave!??? Or they don't care if she leaves (unless she doesn't have certain sort of qualities)? Of course it can be so...

Men has to protect men against women?

Are women allowed to protect each others or maybe even themselves? Is it "poor men/I", but is it really "poor you" about a woman? Or? Am I unfair?? Should it be "poor anyone"? or "poor all of us"??? I don't know...

Why am I perhaps talking in riddles?? Are we actually allowed to talk straight about some things?? And the ones talking about Breaking Down Walls of Silence - how is it with this actually??? What walls? And what kind of walls are allowed to stand there?? Are some walls invisible too?? Of some reason??

What walls are we allowed to break and what walls not?? Are some actually interested of loosing the/a power?? I can't help wonder...

And those saying they aren't afraid of strong women - aren't they?? And actually: what is "a strong woman"??? Is she only strong right through???

Could this maybe be the little boy in the grown up man confronted with a mother-image?? Too???

Contemplating now just before lunch...